Saturday, December 15, 2012

DO THAT TO ME ONE MORE TIME

12/14/2012

 DO THAT TO ME ONE MORE TIME


Sadly nothing changes, we will all wring our collective hands and move on. That is what we have been told by the politicians, clergy and the psychologists, that is what is expected. We have a culture of murder, death is seen just another form of entertainment, thru slasher movies, video games and crime shows. We brag about how we kill people from ten thousand miles away. We are the judge and the j
ury. We are the executioners and the justice. Just look at our culture at large, do whatever to whomever long as you make yourself happy. We are always right and have the right to eliminate those we do not like. We are the humans that the ancients and the prophets warned us of. This is what we have become.
Now you can proceed to castigate me for my truthfulness to make you feel better about your own sorry outlook and understanding of what living is about.


 http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/?hpt=us_c1

Call me cynical, I am so tired of this whole silly routine, the ritual we have afer we have another mass murder, the whole charade should be banned, not given any coverage on TV. You notice I have not noted any of these recent affairs here, the shootings in Arizona and Fort Hood were exceptions, first in that a congress woman , Gabby Gifford was involved and second where A Muslim fanatic took it upon himself to avenge the deaths of thousand in the Middle East.

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Thursday, December 13, 2012

WHY SOCIAL SECURITY IS FAILING

12/13/2012


 WHY SOCIAL SECURITY IS FAILING

Let's go back to lesson one, that is, " There is a cost to being stupid, cost of being stupid can be measured in dollars and cents." (M.N.R.)

I am proud of myself ain't I, quoting my own self every chance I get. I do, shamelessly, because as stupid as I have been time and again time has only proven me right. So the social security is going broke because we love to shop at Wal-mart!

How can you say that you ask, I am glad you do, because I am right, let me repeat myself, social security is going broke because you love to shop at Wal-mart!

We are facing a "fiscal cliff", so we are told by the propaganda machine, "entitlements must be cut say the Republicans, we can not hurt the poor too much say the Democrats. Yet as time goes on, and we will see, that the rich get to keep a lower tax rate than they had when W started, and lower than when Clinton was in the office, yet the programs for the poor and the elderly will be cut, including of course social security, too bad you have not been reading this blog since I started it six and a half years ago, you will not notice that this is all a rehash of what I have been saying all along.

First of all you must remember,  you have been told to forget by the propaganda machine also called the media, left and right does not really matter, that social security is NOT an entitlement, it is your retirement plan that you funded with your money that was supposed to be safe guarded by the federal government, remember "the full faith and credit of the US government" bull shit?

Well since Reagan that money has been spent, the vaults are empty but for the IOU's of the same government that has stolen your money and spent it with full blessings of the Democrats and aaaah so nice Republicans, another one of the working man's sell out Reagan. For thirty some odd years both Republicans and Democrat governments and congress have taken the deposits to social security and spent it , as on offset to the budget deficits.

Yes it ti is true, you are living longer you working class filth, so we must increase your "retirement age, it not not like "making money" sitting on your ass all day at a computer in your bedroom, you are out raising crops and making roads and digging ditches and sweeping the factory floor, you need to work till you are seventy or eighty years old, may be you should volunteer to stand in front of a death squad in the end, only the rich people have a right to a long and happy life in retirement not the working scum.

Now the second kick in the ass of the working poor is/was the two wars not paid for and the housing boom. Even as the government was stealing the funds from the social security deposit to finance operations and wars and military buildups, the FED had to drop the interest rates lower to keep the deficits lower, ( low interest rates kept the servicing the federal deficits manageable. It worked to point, lower interest rates kept the borrowing costs lower for the federal government but the also lowered the interest payments on the money borrowed from the social security trust fund low. Under Clinton, due to the dot com bubble the employment increased and thus the contributions to the social security trust funds were higher masking the larger outflows for retirees, under Jr, the employment increased for a while  due to higher hiring by defense industry, the war machine and also the housing boom helped (fueled by the lower interest rates mind you , not because poor blacks and minorities were buying million dollar condos on the beach).

Thirdly,  as the secret is now out, since Regan the wages of the American workers have stagnated or gone lower, you know what that means? Lower wages mean that the contributions to the social security trust fund have been lowered compared to the inflation rate also,and as the wages continue to drift lower, union busting, Walmartization of the economy, competitiveness, ( but workers in China and India can do the same job cheaper!) the wages keep going lower and so the money in the trust fund is going out faster than it can possibly come in, do the  math.

You know that the Republicans do not want to  pay a whole lot to the working class other than the lip service, and you should also know that the Democrats are a sell out too and they will never tell y9ou the whole truth, OBAMA INCLUDED folks!

Social security is floating on thin ice,  it is like the polar ice cap too thin to support the heavy weight of the baby boomer retirees, no band aids will fix it, the unemployment is not about to go down and the wages are not about to go up, in basic economics, the higher unemployment will push the wages down, it is supply and demand folks, and you have been screwed.

Five years,m ten years, fifteen years outs, the social security will be broke and unsalvageable., That was the Regan agenda, he succeeded from the grave, I told you this then, he hated poor people and he hated social security more, you will not have social security, your 401K will not be funded, you won't have anything tho put in to it, your employers will not put anything in your 401K plan either, they have a plan for you, Democrats and Republicans, a great plan, WORK HARDER AND DIE EARLY!




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Thursday, December 06, 2012

REVOLUTIONARY THOUGHTS

12/06/2012

 REVOLUTIONARY THOUGHTS

Every one, every where, wants to change the things they don't like, sometimes they will pray, talk to others about the conditions in negative terms, beg someone to change, depends.

When people do not like things at national or political level the will vote for a change, change political parties, affiliations, or petition or protest for change, some times they feel unable to bring change by peaceful means, and when unable, they will revolt.  Always the first step being the disagreement with the conditions, yet you must know the things are bad, you must be aware that the situation must change, and have a desire to cause that change.

But what if you are not interested, you know you don't like the way things are but you don't wish to say rock the boat. What if you are physically disabled? Worse, what if you have a mental defect and you don't even know that you have a problem?

There is a train coming and you are walking down the track, you are deaf and blind, worse, you are in a drunken stupor and passed out on the tracks while the train approaches, you are dead meat before you know it.


A friend on Facebook made this post, " "When the end is absolute, historically speaking, and when it is believed certain of realization, it is possible to go so far as to sacrifice others. When it is not, only oneself can be sacrificed, in the hazards of a struggle for the common dignity of man. Does the end justify the means? That is possible. But what will justify the end? To that question, which historical thought leaves pending, rebellion replies: the means. " ~ Albert Camus, The Rebel

For many years now, I have been watching the human condition, from the economic card tricks being played by the governments world wide to the declines in society and social values, break up of families, cohesion of humanity, all in the name of progress.

I have longed for changes, worse I have tried to wake people up from this stupor that we are in collectively, we have been conned, all of us, or may be we have allowed ourselves to be fooled by the magic tricks money, we took the poisoned apple and ate it and fell asleep. 

A revolution can only began when one first become aware that there is something wrong.


 For a couple of generations now, the TV has told us, it is OK to be stupid, psychologists have told us it is OK to not care. We live in world of dreams and of high living standards financed actually and only by the government debt, while in turn that money ends up in the pockets of bankers, super rich and yes the foreigners. We do not yet realize that we have been fooled. We have been sold in to slavery.

When this debt is called, we will have a depression of Biblical proportions with no way out. Then we will do what we are told, we will work for starvation wages, we will agree to have few or no children at all, we will work sixteen hours day just to earn subsistence.


Ever the optimist, Albert Camus, is making two assumption that we lack today, first is human dignity. Today the dignity is in short supply, actually it is taboo to have dignity, we are all common people. I have mentioned it before, I went to see Disney's "The Lion King" with my five year old daughter, I was screaming when I left the theater, trying to tell my little girl that the movie had a wrong message, the sons of kings don't go and live happy in slums, they don't lower themselves to eat bugs, lions are kings of the jungle, there is no such thing for the sons of the kings as "Hakuna Matata. My poor child probably did not know why daddy was angry.

Surely Disney did not wish to brain wash five year olds, surely this was not the first incident of undignified behavior, and hell it was just a cartoon for the kids right. But we had the mother of the future king of England screwing every Tom, Dick and Harry, NO? And how about the president of the United States getting a blow job from a girl the age of his daughter, why Nixon resigned and Reagan admitted to lying about Iran Contra, human dignity my dear Albert seems to be lacking here. We are willing to eat bugs and live in garbage dumps.

I am not done yet really, we should also talk about the means, soon

07/06/2006

slaves

A study of our history will show that one of the ways the slaves were kept down was to dehumanize them. Slaves, and more particularly the female slaves were not supposed to be deserving of honor, they were not worthy of having any dignity or self- respect, of modesty or shame, or privacy of person. The slaves could not complain if their wife or daughter or sister was taken for sex with or without consent. And a master could see them naked or near naked if he so desired. We have surely come a long way, baby!
In the old days, the slaves were not allowed to have any shame, dignity or honor and education, in the 20th century we surrendered it all willingly and called it progress. Mohammed N. Razavi , 2004.

(M.N.R)






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Wednesday, November 28, 2012

Indian schoolgirl attempts suicide after being paraded naked by teacher for 'stealing' £15

11/28/2012


Indian schoolgirl attempts suicide after being paraded naked by teacher for 'stealing' £15



he scale of cruelty and corporal punishment in Indian schools was highlighted yesterday by the attempted suicide of 13 year girl who was paraded naked by a teacher for 'stealing' £15.

Indian schoolgirl attempts suicide after being paraded naked by teacher for 'stealing' £15
The case emerged amid a series of reports of brutal attacks on children by teachers throughout India Photo: REX
The girl was forced to remove her clothes by a female teacher at a school in north-west Delhi after being accused of stealing money and a mobile phone from a classmate. She returned home after school and jumped off the balcony of her four-storey block of flats. Her relatives said she had been distraught by her public humiliation.
Her case emerged amid a series of reports of brutal attacks on children by teachers throughout India. A four year old boy was forced to drink his own urine by his nursery teacher in Andhra Pradesh to punish him for wetting himself. A five year old boy in the same state was beaten up by a grammar school principal, while a seven year old Dalit girl was thrashed by her mathematics teacher for failing to solve a problem. A teacher was arrested in Madhya Pradesh for partially scalping an eight year old girl .
Colin Gonsolves, director of India's Human Rights Law Network, said while corporal punishment in schools is illegal it remains widespread.
"In practice we are still beating our children in our schools It doesn't just include beating the child, we have witnessed cases of sexual abuse, mental harassment and long term psychological traumas in many children. As far as the schooling system is concerned we are still living in dark ages and acting as an uncivilised and backward society," he said.
The problem continues, he said, because many parents and police officers do not consider it wrong for a teacher to beat a child. "they think its been done for the betterment of the child." he said.


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Sunday, November 25, 2012

Woman Robs Her Own Mother for $40,000 Ring

11/25/2012

Woman Robs Her Own Mother for $40,000 Ring




You may be sad that a woman of 35 would steal from her own mother, may be angry. You might say I would never do that, I could not stoop so low, may be we all wish such things did not happen in our society or in our humanity, I could agree, nod my head and we could all feel good about ourselves.

I think differently, yes it makes me angry at the stupid woman to be doing this to her own mother, but who are we to judge her, are we any better? Really?

Stop and think, we live in a smaller and smaller world we say, we are starting a "Universal Culture", what we do here, wherever your here is, is happening everywhere, fashion, movies, money, whatever, we are in the same boat, our educations are similar, we have same professions, we eat the same food from the same chain stores, sleep in the hotels with the same names, dance like each other. Across the boundaries of color, race, national origin, religion and social values and mores we are becoming similar if not totally homogenous.  So if she did it here, it is happening all over, really it is, open your mind.

If there be an award for stupidity, for thanklessness, for cruelty, for callousness, for mindlessness, whatever I bet you want to give it to her. I agree. What was she doing? what was she thinking you say. I agree, THINK, is the operative word here. Sadly we the individuals are all alike. You don't see it, I know.

I could give you a thousand examples of similar behavior, by children, from our daily lives, but you see it already, don't you. A family buys the young one a car to go to work with and the child goes speeding, partying and destroys the car in a wreck costing the family money that the family sometimes could not afford. And also grown ups spending the money they could have saved for their child's education on beer and Disney World trips, a bigger house or a new car. The only difference here being the value of the ring and the method of operation. And why not the people that are cheating on their spouses breaking apart their own families and hurting their kids. Keeping this simple and short here, look for other examples in your own life, you know what I am saying. This is not all really!

For the last thirty years or so, American corporations have made cutting costs (of labor mainly) there prime goal. The hell with helping your fellow citizens,  (many with some lousy work ethics mind you) by providing jobs and a living wage, as if it is not robbing your own mother. We cheat on taxes, we cheat our employers, we cheat our employees, we steal from stores and have no guilt about any of it, ( may be you are only doing it sometimes or just a little bit, everybody else is doing it right!).

If you think that it is the poor schmucks only, you would be wrong too. Our congress men and senators do it all the time, they just make up laws to keep the stuff legal. And how about the multimillionaires buying elections to take the country down their own self serving paths. We buy cheap junk made overseas costing our friends and family a reasonable livelihood, while we blame the unemployed for being on welfare. If a country is also a person's motherland then keeping your money overseas to avoid paying taxes is cheating your mother also.

I feel sorry for the lady, she was only doing what we all are guilty of, those without a sin may cast the first stone.


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Sunday, November 18, 2012

CREATING THE NEW "OLD SOUTH" 2

11/18/2012



 CREATING THE NEW "OLD SOUTH" 2

Just because I take a particular point does not mean that I completely agree with a certain school of thought,  It also does not mean that I will never agree with some idea that you may have, I am not that silly.

The mind set today for the most American is like what W said, " you are either with us, or against us". This kind of thought actually makes enemies where they do not need be. It divides the people, it divides the country, it is impractical and counter productive, the country need to get over it, NOW.

WE are not at war with each other,  we need each other, every one, Like I have been saying for a long while, the politicians have been working to divide us, so is the media, they are fooling us and no good will come of it, if we start fighting each other we let these go free in their corruption and stealing the country blind, the media are owned by the rich, sadly so are we.



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Monday, November 12, 2012

CREATING A "NEW" OLD SOUTH???

11/11/2012

CREATING A "NEW" OLD SOUTH???

I am sure we have all heard stories about when someone on a ledge is threatening to jump and commit suicide, some in the crowd will proceed to shout jump, jump, jump. Back when I was younger and more careless than now,  I may have been among those shouting jump also. But I am older and a bit more concerned about the welfare of the unaware.

No I do not mean to brag about my self. In this blog many places I have stated my cause as to inform the others of what I see coming, of how things really are and to always tell the truth as I see it.

In my native language there is an adage, " the drums of far away sound sweeter". Similarly there are many adages in the English language too, from " be careful what you wish for", to "think before you leap", so if you are someone on the ledge please consider the consequences of your action.

Let us say that you are on a ship that is certain to sink over some period of time, and there are no life boats that you have access to, you have two choices now, you can stay with the ship and wait for it to go down, or may be hope that some other vessel may happen to come by, or may be that the bilge pumps can keep the ship longer than you presume, or otherwise you jump off the ship to a certain and quick demise.

The elections are over now, and somehow or another the president was re elected, and I know half the people did not vote for him and we in the South are disappointed that our candidate, Romney, did not win.   O.K. So disappointed is a very mild term, you are angry, you are furious, you are besides yourself, and you wish to make him go away, you are not the only one, you have thousands upon thousands of people that agree with you. You are ready to secede, to hell with the black guy in the White house that is making this country in to his dream socialist utopia, you deserve better, and you can have it soon as you are liberated from the chains of Washington D.C.

Come again? 

http://politicaltrance.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-government-a-boutique-publicity-firm/

 I know, we have been told that we can do better, we can survive on our own and Texas is the fifteenth largest economy in the world or something like that. While back, even Walter Williams, a black guy was saying it could be done, Thomas Sowell even said so. And there are millionaires and billionaires in the South that agree, they can't be wrong can they, they are really smart I know, because they have money.

Plus we don't like gays and blacks and Mexicans too, we are Christians and we don't want the other kinds coming in here, we will have gold standard and our own money.We knew it was gonna happen and we were ready, we will go back to the Constitution and let the people take care of their own self. That is rugged individualism we are so proud of.

And I do hate to be the party pooper, but sometimes it is better to look in the mirror first.

So we secede from the union, and they actually let us go. On day one the social security checks stop, unemployment checks stop, no food stamps and no medicaid payments to the state to take care of the poor the hungry and the unemployed along with the millions of the elderly that are dependent on their social security, I hope we have a lot of gold we can sell quickly to feed these people.

 A gold standard and getting rid of the FED and the phoney money.

Of course we need jobs too,  isn't Texas creating jobs and Alabama has car factories, but as we are no longer part of the United States and their banking system, the credit is frozen, our banks can not lend the money they do not have (because they do not have enough gold in the treasury of the South to print a whole lot of money).

There is no construction jobs because the newly poor now have no cash to buy the house with, remember right now we do not need gold or cash because the Federal government prints money, and also guarantees all the mortgages. No more VA, FHA HUD whatever loans available.

Then we lose a few more jobs, the Federal government pulls out Fort Rucker, AL,  Maxwell air base and the Air University, AL, Fort Hood, TX, Fort Bliss, TX, Fort Sam Houton, Fort Knox,  Keseleer air base, Hulbert field,  Fort Polk, Huntsville is shut down, I could go on and the numbers could get in to hundreds, No money coming in, no jobs on base, no defense contracts.

Once again, I do not come to this subject a new, I have heard the rumblings for a while  and considered these before,
 http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2010/05/some-revolutionary-ideas.html

http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2010/05/some-revolutionary-ideas-ii.html

http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2010/06/revolutionary-ideas-iii.html

Then again what to do with the other non military facilities such as the Federal high way system the Air Traffic Control and the Harbors and the airports.What if the federal government decides (sure they would not though) to remove or disable these , won't take but a minute!

NO stupid one liners, please. It appears that these people wanting to secede are believing  that the US constitution will some how move to the South unchanged, not so. Each state or the new confederacy will write their own new constitution, possibly the freedoms given to the people and the rights given thru the amendments or the courts will not survive. The prohibition could come back, along with segregation and religious bigotry too. NO gay rights. no religious freedom, even no mini skirts, remember under Alabama law you can go to jail for possessing , buy, selling sex toys, heck carrots and bananas could be banned.

It is not just a Republican problem, the Democrats have gone wild here, Occupy Wall Street, close down the banks, shout down the conservatives and all of it, No one seems to find a reason to shut the hell up and show some regard to the another's right to hold any opinion different than yours. I have long complained that we are cajoling the poor in to laziness, I recently saw the Construction of a general store, more than half the workers were Spanish looking, they really worked hard, from pre- dawn to after dark, literally, but then no one was there to ask if these workers were undocumented or not, though few spoke any English at all. No one protested for a job, to work there, no one picketed. Tough many people in the area I know are unemployed and on welfare. But does it mean that Obama is creating a communist or a socialist country? We have a progressive society as some may call it, we take care of of poor, with unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, even rental assistance and even with electric bills, none of these programs were, how ever, created by Obama, he just gets the blame that's all, for the expansion of the same too, which was directly caused by our own mismanagement of the society and the economy.

 http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/09/at-end-of-reason.html

I have addressed these problems in the numerous articles in this blog and how we have been led into this disaster that now seems so out of control it was all predicted right here in these pages.

 http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2007/01/death-of-america-economy.html

 http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/08/death-to-america-part-2-female.html

 http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/08/death-to-amrica-education.html

Being angry at the Obama re-election or blaming Obama for  all what ails the nation, once again, is a distraction from the real issues and a waste of time, or at best racist.




http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/08/edward-topol-america-on-verge-of-civil.html

not done yet.

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Saturday, November 10, 2012

Karl Rove Doubtful Of Obama Re-election Win Questioning Ohio Votes "I Do...





here is song for Carl  
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Thursday, November 08, 2012

IT'S GOTTA BE A MORNING AFTER

11/07/2012

IT'S GOTTA BE MORNING AFTER

 It was a few days ago when I posted this song below on my wall, scared, yes I was very scared, the net works and the pundits calling the race too close to call. The Republican talking about going to war, accusing Democrats of voter fraud, the news talking daily about how the Republican establishment in various states and in various ways were trying to reduce the Democrat turn out, reducing the number of days and hours, of voting , early voting changes, robo calls with wrong information,about voting, mailer with different days, any thing goes was the rule of the day. All is fair in love and war they say.

Scared may not even the word, I was shitless, what could go wrong with the election that the nation could come to blows with her own self I've been there, I did not like it then either.










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Sunday, November 04, 2012

Gov. Jesse Ventura & Gov. Gary Johnson Tear it Up in Minnesota - Macalst...



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Webster Tarpley: CIA Has Fingerprints All Over Benghazi Assault



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Saturday, November 03, 2012

Rudy Giuliani criticizes Obama re: Sandy



I love Giuliani, love how he bashes Obama, love how he does not mention Katrina and the Republican response to it. Love he never compares Obama's obvious  failings to the Bush' response to the crisis. Love how he does not talk about the right wing media blaming the Louisiana  disaster on the poor and unprepared blacks yet the same hold the Eastern Whites blameless. Love how the shameless cheating, wife abuser guy speaks for the American moral majority.




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Wednesday, October 31, 2012

THE AMERICAN DILEMMA


 10/31/2012

 THE AMERICAN DILEMMA



Believing in and repeating lies, stupid statements, and other propaganda does not show you as informed, literate and intelligent.



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Sunday, October 28, 2012

Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history




Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history


 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/medina-saudis-take-a-bulldozer-to-islams-history-8228795.html



Three of the world’s oldest mosques are about to be destroyed as Saudi Arabia embarks on a multi-billion-pound expansion of Islam’s second holiest site. Work on the Masjid an-Nabawi in Medina, where the Prophet Mohamed is buried, will start once the annual Hajj pilgrimage ends next month. When complete, the development will turn the mosque into the world’s largest building, with the capacity for 1.6 million worshippers.

But concerns have been raised that the development will see key historic sites bulldozed. Anger is already growing at the kingdom’s apparent disdain for preserving the historical and archaeological heritage of the country’s holiest city, Mecca.  Most of the expansion of Masjid an-Nabawi will take place to the west of the existing mosque, which holds the tombs of Islam’s founder and two of his closest companions, Abu Bakr and Umar.
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”
 


Three of the world’s oldest mosques are about to be destroyed as Saudi Arabia embarks on a multi-billion-pound expansion of Islam’s second holiest site. Work on the Masjid an-Nabawi in Medina, where the Prophet Mohamed is buried, will start once the annual Hajj pilgrimage ends next month. When complete, the development will turn the mosque into the world’s largest building, with the capacity for 1.6 million worshippers.

But concerns have been raised that the development will see key historic sites bulldozed. Anger is already growing at the kingdom’s apparent disdain for preserving the historical and archaeological heritage of the country’s holiest city, Mecca.  Most of the expansion of Masjid an-Nabawi will take place to the west of the existing mosque, which holds the tombs of Islam’s founder and two of his closest companions, Abu Bakr and Umar.
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”

Three of the world’s oldest mosques are about to be destroyed as Saudi Arabia embarks on a multi-billion-pound expansion of Islam’s second holiest site. Work on the Masjid an-Nabawi in Medina, where the Prophet Mohamed is buried, will start once the annual Hajj pilgrimage ends next month. When complete, the development will turn the mosque into the world’s largest building, with the capacity for 1.6 million worshippers.

But concerns have been raised that the development will see key historic sites bulldozed. Anger is already growing at the kingdom’s apparent disdain for preserving the historical and archaeological heritage of the country’s holiest city, Mecca.  Most of the expansion of Masjid an-Nabawi will take place to the west of the existing mosque, which holds the tombs of Islam’s founder and two of his closest companions, Abu Bakr and Umar.
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”

Sunday, October 21, 2012

Thursday, October 18, 2012

TEEN SUICIDE II

TEEN SUICIDE PART 2

10/19/2012

10/18/2012

Please note, this is not all complete, but I am tired now and must rest, talk to you soon.


I know I usually talk more about the finance or politics rather than society, but I have before and I want to talk some more about it today. I had missed the news totally, never had heard of Amanda Todd before today, that is until I saw a post where my nephew (from Canada) had commented on a post about the girl. Sorry she is dead, sad even, but in all honesty do I care, can I ? many of us pretend at moments like these, we express shock and grief and I know we have no idea of the reality of the person's life, it is just another moment in life of a self absorbed society to feign coming together and act lie we give a damn, we don't honestly,  we don't even know how, and nothing changes, death of Micheal Jackson, Casey Anthony story, Rihanna's boy friend beating the shit out of her, it is an occasion, we care we proclaim, we just don't know why the hell do we. It is diversion from our own miserable existence, our own miserable lives, someone else is more screwed up then we are, Hallelujah!


Don't mind me, if you wish, ignore me, I really don't give a shit, it my computer, and my time, this page is free and I got nothing better to do anyway, or you may want to listen, read on.

Back some where, when I was young, in 1972,  I wrote,  " I worry about big problems that I can not solve so I can Ignore my smaller problems that I don't want to solve".  I did not know then that I was not the only one, or may be over time the same has become the rational of the rest of the world around me.  Or like john Lennon said in his song Watching the Wheels,
"People asking questions lost in confusion,
Well I tell them there's no problem, Only solutions," we are all lost in confusion, and we have solutions, apparently, we just don't want to solve our problems.

Did you know that our society has problems that are fads mainly, you have a problem you can start your own new fad, we solve problems making them into fads, and soon we have "experts" coming out of the wood work presenting us with easy plans to resolve our problems, soon the problems go out of fad and there is no more problem, though it never did get resolved but we move on, WE MUST MOVE ON. WE ALWAYS MOVE ON. Now that is what I call problem, problem solving if you will. Oprah, Dr. Phil, the View,  Dr. Oz, or just read the self help books.

http://jezebel.com/5955093/slut+shamed-teen-commits-suicide-taunted-by-classmates-to-the-very-end?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

We talk about our problems like 1, we are all individuals, the society has no baring, somehow I have always believed that we are all society first and individuals second. And secondly that kids are just small sized adults, with not just all the rights but also with all the thinking and decision making abilities, of course if they are in trouble due to making mistakes they also are responsible for solving them. In that the parents and the society at large are contributing and are directly responsible for the mess the kids create. Only one thing I could agree with Mitt Romney about is this , that the parents are responsible for the teen violence, go figure!

http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/08/death-to-america-part-2-female.html

What is modelling? NO, not the kind that is called a job where you make money, but modelling a behavior  to teach our kids right from wrong.

Before you start calling me backwards, a retrograde or any other names consider this please, it is not just the presidential candidates being involved  in name calling and finger pointing, it is the TV shows, it the Youtube the Facebook, all of them, and then there is parents, the family, if a mom brings a guy home to fuck and asks her daughter if he is cute, then is she not telling her daughter that it is ok to fuck guys if they are cute??????

Next what shows for kids have you watched lately? My kids are growing so I don't get to watch Nickelodeon or Disney much any more, but when they did and I watched, all shows, just about, had kids bullying each other, they all presented some kid as "lame" or stupid,  and everyone got to make fun of them. Watch the grown up channels, "The Real whores of New Jersey or where ever, any other competition shows, Watch Leeza, Watch Jerry Springer, watch Dr Phil talk down to people and make them look stupid for camera and the ratings, watch the court shows, I mean anything it is all about belittling people then we tell kids not to bully and schools to be responsible for the shitty behavior of our kids.


http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2008/08/failure-worshipping.html

We watch people being tortured and maimed and put in to horrible situations in the name of entertainment. No I am not talking here about reality shows or talk show crap, look at the movies, the Jason series, the movie "Untraceable", Not the "Silence of the Lambs"  mind you but how about the "Final Destination"? If this is entertainment then what is a young brain picking up?


LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE

Tuesday, October 16, 2012

Pink Floyd - Time (Music Video - 1973)

Listen to the words of the song, while you enjoy the so much LSD trip like surreal video, read the words below if you don't know them already, this song made me cry so much many moons ago.

LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE

Wednesday, October 03, 2012

Woodrow Guthrie Should the Church of England, or any religion for that matter, be forced to marry gay people?


I do believe we are talking about the monotheistic religions here, Church of England just being a branch of  the vast tree of the intolerant and confused dogmas. What does any religion today, as being practiced by a majority of its followers, has to do with it's origins and practices of its founders. Religions today are made up of groups of people that do whatever they like in their daily life yet on Fridays (Muslims), Saturdays (Jews) and Sundays ( most Christians) get together to slap each other on the back for being such great  servants of their "Lord".

Stop the BS, you are not fooling anyone with an open mind or a working eye sight. As I have said before, why are we so worried about the gay marriage while we ignore all the rest of the admonitions of our faith? Is it to impress god, if so I am sure he sees you as liars, and hypocrites that you are.  What value is the straight marriage, better yet how about the clergy's abuse of the flock, what is the church's stand on poverty, corruption of the politics, on bribery, For long churches, and synogages and Masjids been silent on abuse of the poor, the widows and orphans,

It is clear from following the practices of the faithful that the people are at their most religious only in the matters that do not directly effect their own conduct and personal lives, and the churches are happy to provide a cover for their "sins". In truth, today's churches are shops dispensing  fake remedies and spreading the evils of hate and discrimination for their own selfish purposes, making a lot of money, I truly believe preachers should be asked to get real jobs and pay taxes. Short of this much I see no problem in requiring them to marry gay persons, though I don't think that the blessing of preacher means a damn, but if there be such fools that think it important then so be it, marrying gays would be no different than marry a couple where the female is eight and half months pregnant, or blessing a dinner at the house of someone taking bribes, or even murdering the innocent around the corner or half way around the globe.

 They have as much of right to be confused about god and religion as anyone else, why should the fantasy of the straight people be preferred over the similar fantasy of gay people. They are as much a creation of the same gods as the straight people are, they are not the children of some lesser god. We do need to step out of the darkness. When religions were created there were no lights, no DNA testing, no information on the deviations of the genetic codes. People lived in dark homes so Islam required four witnesses to an affair, totally unnecessary when you can place a video cam in the house, rape can be confirmed with a DNA test too, women were not supposed to travel alone because it was dangerous in the desert for a woman without escort. Women needed to be covered because with only a few scores of people in town they would have been known by all and may have lead to something, good luck following someone in a city of ten million. Gays were different because god did not create someone imperfect, now we know better, I hope.


LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE

A RACE ABOUT RACE, PART TWO








LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE

Sunday, September 30, 2012

DEATH IN BENGHAZI, AND MORE

09/30/2012

DEATH IN BENGHAZI, AND MORE

" A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth". 14 Proverbs 6.

http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/07/faith.html

Turkish pilots killed by Assad, not in crash: leaked documents

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad ordered the killing of two Turkish air force pilots who were captured after their fighter jet was shot down on June 22, 2012, files obtained by Al Arabiya show. (Al Arabiya)

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/09/29/240805.html?fb_action_ids=10151261229724744&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582


As political tensions mount between neighboring Syria and Turkey, newly-leaked Syrian intelligence documents obtained by Al Arabiya disclose shocking claims shedding light on the dreadful fate of two Turkish Air Force pilots.

Contrary to what was publicaly claimed, the documents reveal that the pilots survived the crash, but were later executed by the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad!
This disclosure is the first in a series of revelations based on a number of newly-leaked and highly classified Syrian security documents which will be aired in a special program produced by Al Arabiya over the next two weeks; the channel’s English portal – http://english.alarabiya.net – will be carrying a subtitled version of the program on daily basis as well as publishing downloadable copies of the leaked documents.

The documents were obtained with the assistance of members of the Syrian opposition who refused to elaborate on how they laid hand on the documents.

Al Arabiya said that it has verified and authenticated hundreds of these documents and that it is has decided to disclose the ones with substantial news value and political relevance.

The downed jet

On June 22, a Turkish military jet was shot down by a Syrian missile in international airspace, Ankara’s official report said; a claim Damascus has refuted.

Assad’s regime said the country’s defense forces shot down the two-seater F-4 Phantom as it was in the Syrian airspace.

In an interview with Turkish paper Cumhuriyet published in July, Assad said he wished his forces did not shoot down the jet, claiming that Damascus did not know the identity of the plane at the time.

The incident set off tensions between the former allies, but Ankara, which had vowed a harsh response to any border violations by Syria, limited its reaction to sending military reinforcements to the common frontiers.

The two pilots on board of the jet were killed.

But both official reports by Syria and Turkey have restrained their explanation on the causes of the deaths of Air Force Captain Gokhan Ertan and Air Force Lieutenant Hasan Huseyin Aksoy.

Turkey’s armed forces said it had found the bodies of both pilots on the Mediterranean seabed.

“The bodies (of the two pilots) have been recovered [from] the seabed and work is underway to bring them to the surface,” the army command said in a statement released early in July.

The military did not specify where the bodies were found, but there has been no report that the pilots ejected from the plane.

However, after investigating the leaked documents it obtained, Al Arabiya can now reveal for the first time an alternative narrative of what might have happened to the two Turkish pilots.

One highly confidential document was sent directly from the presidential office of President Assad to brigadier Hassan Abdel Rahman (who Al Arabiya’s sources identify as the chief of the Syrian Special Operations Unit) states the following:

“Two Turkish pilots were captured by the Syrian Air Force Intelligence after their jet was shot down in coordination with the Russian naval base in (the Syrian city of) Tartus.”
Picture of the highly confidential document sent from the office of the Syrian president confirming the capture of the two Turkish pilots (Al Arabiya)
Picture of the highly confidential document sent from the office of the Syrian president confirming the capture of the two Turkish pilots (Al Arabiya)
The file therefore reveals two critical reports. First, the pilots were still alive after the plane had crashed. And second, that Russia held its share of involvement in this secretive mission.

The same document orders the concerned parties to treat both Turkish pilots according to the protocol of war prisoners, as instructed by the president.

It also requests that both men be investigated about Turkey’s role in supporting the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the country’s main armed opposition group.

The report also suggests the possibility of transferring the pilots into the neighboring Lebanese territory, leaving them in the custody of Assad’s ally, Hezbollah.

However, if the Turkish air commanders were not killed upon the crash of their F-4 Phantom, further leaked documents confirm that their death was inevitable.

Russian “Guidance”

A subsequently leaked file, also sent from the presidential palace and addressed to all heads of units of the Syrian foreign intelligence, reads: “Based on information and guidance from the Russian leadership comes a need to eliminate the two Turkish pilots detained by the Special Operations Unit in a natural way and their bodies need to be returned to the crash site in international waters.”

The document also suggests the Syrian government sends a “menacing” message to the Turkish government, insinuating Syria’s capability of mobilizing Kurdistan’s Workers Party (PKK) on the Turkish borders, notifying Ankara from the danger it might face in case of any hostile move.
A copy of the presidential order for the killing in a “natural way” of two Turkish pilots. (Al Arabiya)
A copy of the presidential order for the killing in a “natural way” of two Turkish pilots. (Al Arabiya)
The report insists that the Syrian leadership should hasten and make a formal apology to the Turkish government for bringing down the plane, which would embarrass the Turks and win the support of international public opinion. As such, the Syrian Regime did apologize.

Al Arabiya’s exclusive series on the newly-leaked Syrian security documents continues tomorro




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    How long can the people stay so ignorant?  How can we always be so easily duped, why don't we learn the truth on our own when we know that the governments lie, all of them. But the truth is always out there for those who seek the truth, ignorance in the age of the internet is a personal choice. But Muslims are always happy to see one side being slaughtered, does not matter by whom or as to why, and is not just the illiterate fundamentalists, it is "educated" believers too.
Somethings mean more to some than to the others, sometimes!

When must one begin to wonder why the so called and self proclaimed Islamic states are always so eager to disarm and to turn against each other in favor of their own sworn enemies. I have long speculated that the world leaders overall are a bunch of Atheists, not some  believers of any god or dogma, money and power being the only two lords they worship.

Obviously here in this case, the Muslim nations are being taken advantage of  because their Shia, Sunni divide, but surely in the end both sides will lose, they always have, it happened in India, causing the fall of the Mogul Empire, it will cause the fall of Iraq and Pakistan as two Muslim nations and it is going to destroy what remains of Syria. Unless!



So why is this song here and how it relates to what we are talking about, not much but listen to the words, While the others /outsiders got involved in financing and arming the rebellion in Syria, did they think they won't be found out?  We live in the age of information, every thing you do is on camera, these people were known before they got started and we are seeing the results. As it happens we had similar designs on Iran too, but as it happens Iran is mostly Shia and it was harder to find turn coats that will turn on their own for the benefits of the foreigners, that is all, in Syria, however, with a majority Sunni being ruled by Shia it was not so hard to find people dumb enough to start an uprising at the behest of "sympathetic"outsiders.

 http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-us-iran-and-democracy.html

 http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/06/as-iran-burns.html

http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/07/syrian-rebels-captured-with-israeli.html


http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/07/syrian-rebels-exposed-george-galloway.html

As we send Syrian civilians to their slaughter  ( oh yes! do not forget the crocodile tears), we only talk about the atrocities being committed by the regime, we do not talk about our friendly Mujahedin doing the same to the Shia populations, even after the UN finally said a few words about it. Why is democracy good for Syria now all of a sudden, but we still back up the Bahrain regime in their oppression of the Shia?

US is again in the twilight zone of her politics, Syrians may be killing each other but we forget that ones we are supporting in Syria are also the same ones trying to over throw the Shia government in Iraq, thus the increase in the bombings and killing in Iraq, more than likely using the arms we are sending the the Al-Qaeda in Syria. And the hit man is uncovered and the bullet hits the bone.

Watch out!

Here is lesson here for the Arabs, the Muslims (Shia, Sunni or what ever the heck), always so dependent on the mercy of the foreigners to save their ass and protect their fiefdoms,  in the end "we all fall down". There are big bad wolves out there in the real world lil girls, just because someone is licking your ass for your oil or capital investments, providing you with booze or covering up for your liking little girls and boys in Hong Kong or in London, your day is near. Like I said before, (http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-world-order-2003.html),
 you really think you are luckier than Noriega, Raza, or Markos? Keep pushing your luck, Bashir will fall, he WILL, as did Hosni and Qadaffi and others, how long can you tread water? Listen to the girl below, lil girls have to be ready,  for  "he is followed you home and he will eat your head too.



LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE