10/31/2012
THE AMERICAN DILEMMA
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Wednesday, October 31, 2012
THE AMERICAN DILEMMA
10/31/2012
THE AMERICAN DILEMMA
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Sunday, October 28, 2012
Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
Medina: Saudis take a bulldozer to Islam's history
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/medina-saudis-take-a-bulldozer-to-islams-history-8228795.html
Three of the world’s oldest mosques are about to be destroyed as Saudi Arabia embarks on a multi-billion-pound expansion of Islam’s second holiest site. Work on the Masjid an-Nabawi in Medina, where the Prophet Mohamed is buried, will start once the annual Hajj pilgrimage ends next month. When complete, the development will turn the mosque into the world’s largest building, with the capacity for 1.6 million worshippers.
But concerns have been raised that the development will see key
historic sites bulldozed. Anger is already growing at the kingdom’s
apparent disdain for preserving the historical and archaeological
heritage of the country’s holiest city, Mecca. Most of the expansion of
Masjid an-Nabawi will take place to the west of the existing mosque,
which holds the tombs of Islam’s founder and two of his closest
companions, Abu Bakr and Umar.
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”
Three of the world’s oldest mosques are about to be destroyed as Saudi Arabia embarks on a multi-billion-pound expansion of Islam’s second holiest site. Work on the Masjid an-Nabawi in Medina, where the Prophet Mohamed is buried, will start once the annual Hajj pilgrimage ends next month. When complete, the development will turn the mosque into the world’s largest building, with the capacity for 1.6 million worshippers.
But concerns have been raised that the development will see key
historic sites bulldozed. Anger is already growing at the kingdom’s
apparent disdain for preserving the historical and archaeological
heritage of the country’s holiest city, Mecca. Most of the expansion of
Masjid an-Nabawi will take place to the west of the existing mosque,
which holds the tombs of Islam’s founder and two of his closest
companions, Abu Bakr and Umar.
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”
Three of the world’s oldest mosques are about to be destroyed as Saudi Arabia embarks on a multi-billion-pound expansion of Islam’s second holiest site. Work on the Masjid an-Nabawi in Medina, where the Prophet Mohamed is buried, will start once the annual Hajj pilgrimage ends next month. When complete, the development will turn the mosque into the world’s largest building, with the capacity for 1.6 million worshippers.
But concerns have been raised that the development will see key
historic sites bulldozed. Anger is already growing at the kingdom’s
apparent disdain for preserving the historical and archaeological
heritage of the country’s holiest city, Mecca. Most of the expansion of
Masjid an-Nabawi will take place to the west of the existing mosque,
which holds the tombs of Islam’s founder and two of his closest
companions, Abu Bakr and Umar.
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”
Just outside the western walls of the current compound are mosques dedicated to Abu Bakr and Umar, as well as the Masjid Ghamama, built to mark the spot where the Prophet is thought to have given his first prayers for the Eid festival. The Saudis have announced no plans to preserve or move the three mosques, which have existed since the seventh century and are covered by Ottoman-era structures, or to commission archaeological digs before they are pulled down, something that has caused considerable concern among the few academics who are willing to speak out in the deeply authoritarian kingdom.
“No one denies that Medina is in need of expansion, but it’s the way the authorities are going about it which is so worrying,” says Dr Irfan al-Alawi of the Islamic Heritage Research Foundation. “There are ways they could expand which would either avoid or preserve the ancient Islamic sites but instead they want to knock it all down.” Dr Alawi has spent much of the past 10 years trying to highlight the destruction of early Islamic sites.
With cheap air travel and booming middle classes in populous Muslim countries within the developing world, both Mecca and Medina are struggling to cope with the 12 million pilgrims who visit each year – a number expected to grow to 17 million by 2025. The Saudi monarchy views itself as the sole authority to decide what should happen to the cradle of Islam. Although it has earmarked billions for an enormous expansion of both Mecca and Medina, it also sees the holy cities as lucrative for a country almost entirely reliant on its finite oil wealth.
Heritage campaigners and many locals have looked on aghast as the historic sections of Mecca and Medina have been bulldozed to make way for gleaming shopping malls, luxury hotels and enormous skyscrapers. The Washington-based Gulf Institute estimates that 95 per cent of the 1,000-year-old buildings in the two cities have been destroyed in the past 20 years.
In Mecca, the Masjid al-Haram, the holiest site in Islam and a place where all Muslims are supposed to be equal, is now overshadowed by the Jabal Omar complex, a development of skyscraper apartments, hotels and an enormous clock tower. To build it, the Saudi authorities destroyed the Ottoman era Ajyad Fortress and the hill it stood on. Other historic sites lost include the Prophet’s birthplace – now a library – and the house of his first wife, Khadijah, which was replaced with a public toilet block.
Neither the Saudi Embassy in London nor the Ministry for Foreign Affairs responded to requests for comment when The Independent contacted them this week. But the government has previously defended its expansion plans for the two holy cities as necessary. It insists it has also built large numbers of budget hotels for poorer pilgrims, though critics point out these are routinely placed many miles away from the holy sites.
Until recently, redevelopment in Medina has pressed ahead at a slightly less frenetic pace than in Mecca, although a number of early Islamic sites have still been lost. Of the seven ancient mosques built to commemorate the Battle of the Trench – a key moment in the development of Islam – only two remain. Ten years ago, a mosque which belonged to the Prophet’s grandson was dynamited. Pictures of the demolition that were secretly taken and smuggled out of the kingdom showed the religious police celebrating as the building collapsed.
The disregard for Islam’s early history is partly explained by the regime’s adoption of Wahabism, an austere and uncompromising interpretation of Islam that is vehemently opposed to anything which might encourage Muslims towards idol worship.
In most of the Muslim world, shrines have been built. Visits to graves are also commonplace. But Wahabism views such practices with disdain. The religious police go to enormous lengths to discourage people from praying at or visiting places closely connected to the time of the Prophet while powerful clerics work behind the scenes to promote the destruction of historic sites.
Dr Alawi fears that the redevelopment of the Masjid an-Nabawi is part of a wider drive to shift focus away from the place where Mohamed is buried. The spot that marks the Prophet’s tomb is covered by a famous green dome and forms the centrepiece of the current mosque. But under the new plans, it will become the east wing of a building eight times its current size with a new pulpit. There are also plans to demolish the prayer niche at the centre of mosque. The area forms part of the Riyadh al-Jannah (Garden of Paradise), a section of the mosque that the Prophet decreed especially holy..
“Their excuse is they want to make more room and create 20 spaces in a mosque that will eventually hold 1.6 million,” says Dr Alawi. “It makes no sense. What they really want is to move the focus away from where the Prophet is buried.”
A pamphlet published in 2007 by the Ministry of Islamic Affairs – and endorsed by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al Sheikh – called for the dome to be demolished and the graves of Mohamed, Abu Bakr and Umar to be flattened. Sheikh Ibn al-Uthaymeen, one of the 20th century’s most prolific Wahabi scholars, made similar demands.
“Muslim silence over the destruction of Mecca and Medina is both disastrous and hypocritical,” says Dr Alawi. “The recent movie about the Prophet Mohamed caused worldwide protests... and yet the destruction of the Prophet’s birthplace, where he prayed and founded Islam has been allowed to continue without any criticism.”
Sunday, October 21, 2012
Military Suicides
http://theindependentlifeboat.wordpress.com/2012/01/07
/killing-for-opium-if-you-speak-out-youre-suicided/
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
/killing-for-opium-if-you-speak-out-youre-suicided/
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Thursday, October 18, 2012
TEEN SUICIDE II
TEEN SUICIDE PART 2
10/19/2012
10/18/2012
Please note, this is not all complete, but I am tired now and must rest, talk to you soon.
I know I usually talk more about the finance or politics rather than society, but I have before and I want to talk some more about it today. I had missed the news totally, never had heard of Amanda Todd before today, that is until I saw a post where my nephew (from Canada) had commented on a post about the girl. Sorry she is dead, sad even, but in all honesty do I care, can I ? many of us pretend at moments like these, we express shock and grief and I know we have no idea of the reality of the person's life, it is just another moment in life of a self absorbed society to feign coming together and act lie we give a damn, we don't honestly, we don't even know how, and nothing changes, death of Micheal Jackson, Casey Anthony story, Rihanna's boy friend beating the shit out of her, it is an occasion, we care we proclaim, we just don't know why the hell do we. It is diversion from our own miserable existence, our own miserable lives, someone else is more screwed up then we are, Hallelujah!
Don't mind me, if you wish, ignore me, I really don't give a shit, it my computer, and my time, this page is free and I got nothing better to do anyway, or you may want to listen, read on.
Back some where, when I was young, in 1972, I wrote, " I worry about big problems that I can not solve so I can Ignore my smaller problems that I don't want to solve". I did not know then that I was not the only one, or may be over time the same has become the rational of the rest of the world around me. Or like john Lennon said in his song Watching the Wheels,
"People asking questions lost in confusion,
Well I tell them there's no problem, Only solutions," we are all lost in confusion, and we have solutions, apparently, we just don't want to solve our problems.
Did you know that our society has problems that are fads mainly, you have a problem you can start your own new fad, we solve problems making them into fads, and soon we have "experts" coming out of the wood work presenting us with easy plans to resolve our problems, soon the problems go out of fad and there is no more problem, though it never did get resolved but we move on, WE MUST MOVE ON. WE ALWAYS MOVE ON. Now that is what I call problem, problem solving if you will. Oprah, Dr. Phil, the View, Dr. Oz, or just read the self help books.
http://jezebel.com/5955093/slut+shamed-teen-commits-suicide-taunted-by-classmates-to-the-very-end?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
We talk about our problems like 1, we are all individuals, the society has no baring, somehow I have always believed that we are all society first and individuals second. And secondly that kids are just small sized adults, with not just all the rights but also with all the thinking and decision making abilities, of course if they are in trouble due to making mistakes they also are responsible for solving them. In that the parents and the society at large are contributing and are directly responsible for the mess the kids create. Only one thing I could agree with Mitt Romney about is this , that the parents are responsible for the teen violence, go figure!
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/08/death-to-america-part-2-female.html
What is modelling? NO, not the kind that is called a job where you make money, but modelling a behavior to teach our kids right from wrong.
Before you start calling me backwards, a retrograde or any other names consider this please, it is not just the presidential candidates being involved in name calling and finger pointing, it is the TV shows, it the Youtube the Facebook, all of them, and then there is parents, the family, if a mom brings a guy home to fuck and asks her daughter if he is cute, then is she not telling her daughter that it is ok to fuck guys if they are cute??????
Next what shows for kids have you watched lately? My kids are growing so I don't get to watch Nickelodeon or Disney much any more, but when they did and I watched, all shows, just about, had kids bullying each other, they all presented some kid as "lame" or stupid, and everyone got to make fun of them. Watch the grown up channels, "The Real whores of New Jersey or where ever, any other competition shows, Watch Leeza, Watch Jerry Springer, watch Dr Phil talk down to people and make them look stupid for camera and the ratings, watch the court shows, I mean anything it is all about belittling people then we tell kids not to bully and schools to be responsible for the shitty behavior of our kids.
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2008/08/failure-worshipping.html
We watch people being tortured and maimed and put in to horrible situations in the name of entertainment. No I am not talking here about reality shows or talk show crap, look at the movies, the Jason series, the movie "Untraceable", Not the "Silence of the Lambs" mind you but how about the "Final Destination"? If this is entertainment then what is a young brain picking up?
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
10/19/2012
10/18/2012
Please note, this is not all complete, but I am tired now and must rest, talk to you soon.
I know I usually talk more about the finance or politics rather than society, but I have before and I want to talk some more about it today. I had missed the news totally, never had heard of Amanda Todd before today, that is until I saw a post where my nephew (from Canada) had commented on a post about the girl. Sorry she is dead, sad even, but in all honesty do I care, can I ? many of us pretend at moments like these, we express shock and grief and I know we have no idea of the reality of the person's life, it is just another moment in life of a self absorbed society to feign coming together and act lie we give a damn, we don't honestly, we don't even know how, and nothing changes, death of Micheal Jackson, Casey Anthony story, Rihanna's boy friend beating the shit out of her, it is an occasion, we care we proclaim, we just don't know why the hell do we. It is diversion from our own miserable existence, our own miserable lives, someone else is more screwed up then we are, Hallelujah!
Don't mind me, if you wish, ignore me, I really don't give a shit, it my computer, and my time, this page is free and I got nothing better to do anyway, or you may want to listen, read on.
Back some where, when I was young, in 1972, I wrote, " I worry about big problems that I can not solve so I can Ignore my smaller problems that I don't want to solve". I did not know then that I was not the only one, or may be over time the same has become the rational of the rest of the world around me. Or like john Lennon said in his song Watching the Wheels,
"People asking questions lost in confusion,
Well I tell them there's no problem, Only solutions," we are all lost in confusion, and we have solutions, apparently, we just don't want to solve our problems.
Did you know that our society has problems that are fads mainly, you have a problem you can start your own new fad, we solve problems making them into fads, and soon we have "experts" coming out of the wood work presenting us with easy plans to resolve our problems, soon the problems go out of fad and there is no more problem, though it never did get resolved but we move on, WE MUST MOVE ON. WE ALWAYS MOVE ON. Now that is what I call problem, problem solving if you will. Oprah, Dr. Phil, the View, Dr. Oz, or just read the self help books.
http://jezebel.com/5955093/slut+shamed-teen-commits-suicide-taunted-by-classmates-to-the-very-end?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
We talk about our problems like 1, we are all individuals, the society has no baring, somehow I have always believed that we are all society first and individuals second. And secondly that kids are just small sized adults, with not just all the rights but also with all the thinking and decision making abilities, of course if they are in trouble due to making mistakes they also are responsible for solving them. In that the parents and the society at large are contributing and are directly responsible for the mess the kids create. Only one thing I could agree with Mitt Romney about is this , that the parents are responsible for the teen violence, go figure!
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/08/death-to-america-part-2-female.html
What is modelling? NO, not the kind that is called a job where you make money, but modelling a behavior to teach our kids right from wrong.
Before you start calling me backwards, a retrograde or any other names consider this please, it is not just the presidential candidates being involved in name calling and finger pointing, it is the TV shows, it the Youtube the Facebook, all of them, and then there is parents, the family, if a mom brings a guy home to fuck and asks her daughter if he is cute, then is she not telling her daughter that it is ok to fuck guys if they are cute??????
Next what shows for kids have you watched lately? My kids are growing so I don't get to watch Nickelodeon or Disney much any more, but when they did and I watched, all shows, just about, had kids bullying each other, they all presented some kid as "lame" or stupid, and everyone got to make fun of them. Watch the grown up channels, "The Real whores of New Jersey or where ever, any other competition shows, Watch Leeza, Watch Jerry Springer, watch Dr Phil talk down to people and make them look stupid for camera and the ratings, watch the court shows, I mean anything it is all about belittling people then we tell kids not to bully and schools to be responsible for the shitty behavior of our kids.
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2008/08/failure-worshipping.html
We watch people being tortured and maimed and put in to horrible situations in the name of entertainment. No I am not talking here about reality shows or talk show crap, look at the movies, the Jason series, the movie "Untraceable", Not the "Silence of the Lambs" mind you but how about the "Final Destination"? If this is entertainment then what is a young brain picking up?
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Wednesday, October 03, 2012
Woodrow Guthrie Should the Church of England, or any religion for that matter, be forced to marry gay people?
I do believe we are talking about the monotheistic religions here, Church of England just being a branch of the vast tree of the intolerant and confused dogmas. What does any religion today, as being practiced by a majority of its followers, has to do with it's origins and practices of its founders. Religions today are made up of groups of people that do whatever they like in their daily life yet on Fridays (Muslims), Saturdays (Jews) and Sundays ( most Christians) get together to slap each other on the back for being such great servants of their "Lord".
Stop the BS, you are not fooling anyone with an open mind or a working eye sight. As I have said before, why are we so worried about the gay marriage while we ignore all the rest of the admonitions of our faith? Is it to impress god, if so I am sure he sees you as liars, and hypocrites that you are. What value is the straight marriage, better yet how about the clergy's abuse of the flock, what is the church's stand on poverty, corruption of the politics, on bribery, For long churches, and synogages and Masjids been silent on abuse of the poor, the widows and orphans,
It is clear from following the practices of the faithful that the people are at their most religious only in the matters that do not directly effect their own conduct and personal lives, and the churches are happy to provide a cover for their "sins". In truth, today's churches are shops dispensing fake remedies and spreading the evils of hate and discrimination for their own selfish purposes, making a lot of money, I truly believe preachers should be asked to get real jobs and pay taxes. Short of this much I see no problem in requiring them to marry gay persons, though I don't think that the blessing of preacher means a damn, but if there be such fools that think it important then so be it, marrying gays would be no different than marry a couple where the female is eight and half months pregnant, or blessing a dinner at the house of someone taking bribes, or even murdering the innocent around the corner or half way around the globe.
They have as much of right to be confused about god and religion as anyone else, why should the fantasy of the straight people be preferred over the similar fantasy of gay people. They are as much a creation of the same gods as the straight people are, they are not the children of some lesser god. We do need to step out of the darkness. When religions were created there were no lights, no DNA testing, no information on the deviations of the genetic codes. People lived in dark homes so Islam required four witnesses to an affair, totally unnecessary when you can place a video cam in the house, rape can be confirmed with a DNA test too, women were not supposed to travel alone because it was dangerous in the desert for a woman without escort. Women needed to be covered because with only a few scores of people in town they would have been known by all and may have lead to something, good luck following someone in a city of ten million. Gays were different because god did not create someone imperfect, now we know better, I hope.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
A RACE ABOUT RACE, PART TWO
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Sunday, September 30, 2012
DEATH IN BENGHAZI, AND MORE
09/30/2012
DEATH IN BENGHAZI, AND MORE
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/07/faith.html
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/09/29/240805.html?fb_action_ids=10151261229724744&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
As political tensions mount between neighboring Syria and Turkey, newly-leaked Syrian intelligence documents obtained by Al Arabiya disclose shocking claims shedding light on the dreadful fate of two Turkish Air Force pilots.
Contrary to what was publicaly claimed, the documents reveal that the pilots survived the crash, but were later executed by the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad!
The report insists that the Syrian
leadership should hasten and make a formal apology to the Turkish
government for bringing down the plane, which would embarrass the Turks
and win the support of international public opinion. As such, the Syrian
Regime did apologize.
Al Arabiya’s exclusive series on the newly-leaked Syrian security documents continues tomorro
When must one begin to wonder why the so called and self proclaimed Islamic states are always so eager to disarm and to turn against each other in favor of their own sworn enemies. I have long speculated that the world leaders overall are a bunch of Atheists, not some believers of any god or dogma, money and power being the only two lords they worship.
Obviously here in this case, the Muslim nations are being taken advantage of because their Shia, Sunni divide, but surely in the end both sides will lose, they always have, it happened in India, causing the fall of the Mogul Empire, it will cause the fall of Iraq and Pakistan as two Muslim nations and it is going to destroy what remains of Syria. Unless!
So why is this song here and how it relates to what we are talking about, not much but listen to the words, While the others /outsiders got involved in financing and arming the rebellion in Syria, did they think they won't be found out? We live in the age of information, every thing you do is on camera, these people were known before they got started and we are seeing the results. As it happens we had similar designs on Iran too, but as it happens Iran is mostly Shia and it was harder to find turn coats that will turn on their own for the benefits of the foreigners, that is all, in Syria, however, with a majority Sunni being ruled by Shia it was not so hard to find people dumb enough to start an uprising at the behest of "sympathetic"outsiders.
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-us-iran-and-democracy.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/06/as-iran-burns.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/07/syrian-rebels-captured-with-israeli.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/07/syrian-rebels-exposed-george-galloway.html
As we send Syrian civilians to their slaughter ( oh yes! do not forget the crocodile tears), we only talk about the atrocities being committed by the regime, we do not talk about our friendly Mujahedin doing the same to the Shia populations, even after the UN finally said a few words about it. Why is democracy good for Syria now all of a sudden, but we still back up the Bahrain regime in their oppression of the Shia?
US is again in the twilight zone of her politics, Syrians may be killing each other but we forget that ones we are supporting in Syria are also the same ones trying to over throw the Shia government in Iraq, thus the increase in the bombings and killing in Iraq, more than likely using the arms we are sending the the Al-Qaeda in Syria. And the hit man is uncovered and the bullet hits the bone.
Watch out!
Here is lesson here for the Arabs, the Muslims (Shia, Sunni or what ever the heck), always so dependent on the mercy of the foreigners to save their ass and protect their fiefdoms, in the end "we all fall down". There are big bad wolves out there in the real world lil girls, just because someone is licking your ass for your oil or capital investments, providing you with booze or covering up for your liking little girls and boys in Hong Kong or in London, your day is near. Like I said before, (http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-world-order-2003.html),
you really think you are luckier than Noriega, Raza, or Markos? Keep pushing your luck, Bashir will fall, he WILL, as did Hosni and Qadaffi and others, how long can you tread water? Listen to the girl below, lil girls have to be ready, for "he is followed you home and he will eat your head too.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
DEATH IN BENGHAZI, AND MORE
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/07/faith.html
Turkish pilots killed by Assad, not in crash: leaked documents
Saturday, 29 September 2012
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad ordered
the killing of two Turkish air force pilots who were captured after
their fighter jet was shot down on June 22, 2012, files obtained by Al
Arabiya show. (Al Arabiya)
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/09/29/240805.html?fb_action_ids=10151261229724744&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582
As political tensions mount between neighboring Syria and Turkey, newly-leaked Syrian intelligence documents obtained by Al Arabiya disclose shocking claims shedding light on the dreadful fate of two Turkish Air Force pilots.
Contrary to what was publicaly claimed, the documents reveal that the pilots survived the crash, but were later executed by the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad!
This disclosure is the first
in a series of revelations based on a number of newly-leaked and highly
classified Syrian security documents which will be aired in a special
program produced by Al Arabiya over the next two weeks; the channel’s
English portal – http://english.alarabiya.net – will be carrying a
subtitled version of the program on daily basis as well as publishing
downloadable copies of the leaked documents.
The documents were obtained with the assistance of members of the Syrian opposition who refused to elaborate on how they laid hand on the documents.
Al Arabiya said that it has verified and authenticated hundreds of these documents and that it is has decided to disclose the ones with substantial news value and political relevance.
The documents were obtained with the assistance of members of the Syrian opposition who refused to elaborate on how they laid hand on the documents.
Al Arabiya said that it has verified and authenticated hundreds of these documents and that it is has decided to disclose the ones with substantial news value and political relevance.
The downed jet
On June 22, a Turkish military
jet was shot down by a Syrian missile in international airspace,
Ankara’s official report said; a claim Damascus has refuted.
Assad’s regime said the country’s defense forces shot down the two-seater F-4 Phantom as it was in the Syrian airspace.
In an interview with Turkish paper Cumhuriyet published in July, Assad said he wished his forces did not shoot down the jet, claiming that Damascus did not know the identity of the plane at the time.
The incident set off tensions between the former allies, but Ankara, which had vowed a harsh response to any border violations by Syria, limited its reaction to sending military reinforcements to the common frontiers.
The two pilots on board of the jet were killed.
But both official reports by Syria and Turkey have restrained their explanation on the causes of the deaths of Air Force Captain Gokhan Ertan and Air Force Lieutenant Hasan Huseyin Aksoy.
Turkey’s armed forces said it had found the bodies of both pilots on the Mediterranean seabed.
“The bodies (of the two pilots) have been recovered [from] the seabed and work is underway to bring them to the surface,” the army command said in a statement released early in July.
The military did not specify where the bodies were found, but there has been no report that the pilots ejected from the plane.
However, after investigating the leaked documents it obtained, Al Arabiya can now reveal for the first time an alternative narrative of what might have happened to the two Turkish pilots.
One highly confidential document was sent directly from the presidential office of President Assad to brigadier Hassan Abdel Rahman (who Al Arabiya’s sources identify as the chief of the Syrian Special Operations Unit) states the following:
“Two Turkish pilots were captured by the Syrian Air Force Intelligence after their jet was shot down in coordination with the Russian naval base in (the Syrian city of) Tartus.”
Assad’s regime said the country’s defense forces shot down the two-seater F-4 Phantom as it was in the Syrian airspace.
In an interview with Turkish paper Cumhuriyet published in July, Assad said he wished his forces did not shoot down the jet, claiming that Damascus did not know the identity of the plane at the time.
The incident set off tensions between the former allies, but Ankara, which had vowed a harsh response to any border violations by Syria, limited its reaction to sending military reinforcements to the common frontiers.
The two pilots on board of the jet were killed.
But both official reports by Syria and Turkey have restrained their explanation on the causes of the deaths of Air Force Captain Gokhan Ertan and Air Force Lieutenant Hasan Huseyin Aksoy.
Turkey’s armed forces said it had found the bodies of both pilots on the Mediterranean seabed.
“The bodies (of the two pilots) have been recovered [from] the seabed and work is underway to bring them to the surface,” the army command said in a statement released early in July.
The military did not specify where the bodies were found, but there has been no report that the pilots ejected from the plane.
However, after investigating the leaked documents it obtained, Al Arabiya can now reveal for the first time an alternative narrative of what might have happened to the two Turkish pilots.
One highly confidential document was sent directly from the presidential office of President Assad to brigadier Hassan Abdel Rahman (who Al Arabiya’s sources identify as the chief of the Syrian Special Operations Unit) states the following:
“Two Turkish pilots were captured by the Syrian Air Force Intelligence after their jet was shot down in coordination with the Russian naval base in (the Syrian city of) Tartus.”
Picture of the highly confidential document sent from the
office of the Syrian president confirming the capture of the two
Turkish pilots (Al Arabiya)
The file therefore reveals two
critical reports. First, the pilots were still alive after the plane had
crashed. And second, that Russia held its share of involvement in this
secretive mission.
The same document orders the concerned parties to treat both Turkish pilots according to the protocol of war prisoners, as instructed by the president.
It also requests that both men be investigated about Turkey’s role in supporting the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the country’s main armed opposition group.
The report also suggests the possibility of transferring the pilots into the neighboring Lebanese territory, leaving them in the custody of Assad’s ally, Hezbollah.
However, if the Turkish air commanders were not killed upon the crash of their F-4 Phantom, further leaked documents confirm that their death was inevitable.
The same document orders the concerned parties to treat both Turkish pilots according to the protocol of war prisoners, as instructed by the president.
It also requests that both men be investigated about Turkey’s role in supporting the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the country’s main armed opposition group.
The report also suggests the possibility of transferring the pilots into the neighboring Lebanese territory, leaving them in the custody of Assad’s ally, Hezbollah.
However, if the Turkish air commanders were not killed upon the crash of their F-4 Phantom, further leaked documents confirm that their death was inevitable.
Russian “Guidance”
A subsequently leaked file,
also sent from the presidential palace and addressed to all heads of
units of the Syrian foreign intelligence, reads: “Based on information
and guidance from the Russian leadership comes a need to eliminate the
two Turkish pilots detained by the Special Operations Unit in a natural
way and their bodies need to be returned to the crash site in
international waters.”
The document also suggests the Syrian government sends a “menacing” message to the Turkish government, insinuating Syria’s capability of mobilizing Kurdistan’s Workers Party (PKK) on the Turkish borders, notifying Ankara from the danger it might face in case of any hostile move.
The document also suggests the Syrian government sends a “menacing” message to the Turkish government, insinuating Syria’s capability of mobilizing Kurdistan’s Workers Party (PKK) on the Turkish borders, notifying Ankara from the danger it might face in case of any hostile move.
A copy of the presidential order for the killing in a “natural way” of two Turkish pilots. (Al Arabiya)
Al Arabiya’s exclusive series on the newly-leaked Syrian security documents continues tomorro
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Mohammed N. Razavi Stop the propaganda wars. Muslims killing Muslims while the rest of the world makes an ass of you. Look at what happened to Iraq, Afghanistan, you are next.- Flying into another airspace is an act of war.
Tired, tired, tired, of probing for openings by militants.
Assad was no prince,
But neither was he a Bush. - Mohammed N. Razavi The Syrian uprising was supposed to overthrow Bashar in preparation for Israeli attack on Iran. Turkish pilots were testing Syrian air defenses, to expose the locations of Syrian ...See More
- Mohammed N. Razavi Does anyone in their right mind does not know these are forgeries? We have been there before, more "yellow cake" anyone?2 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1
How long can the people stay so ignorant? How can we always be so easily duped, why don't we learn the truth on our own when we know that the governments lie, all of them. But the truth is always out there for those who seek the truth, ignorance in the age of the internet is a personal choice. But Muslims are always happy to see one side being slaughtered, does not matter by whom or as to why, and is not just the illiterate fundamentalists, it is "educated" believers too.
When must one begin to wonder why the so called and self proclaimed Islamic states are always so eager to disarm and to turn against each other in favor of their own sworn enemies. I have long speculated that the world leaders overall are a bunch of Atheists, not some believers of any god or dogma, money and power being the only two lords they worship.
Obviously here in this case, the Muslim nations are being taken advantage of because their Shia, Sunni divide, but surely in the end both sides will lose, they always have, it happened in India, causing the fall of the Mogul Empire, it will cause the fall of Iraq and Pakistan as two Muslim nations and it is going to destroy what remains of Syria. Unless!
So why is this song here and how it relates to what we are talking about, not much but listen to the words, While the others /outsiders got involved in financing and arming the rebellion in Syria, did they think they won't be found out? We live in the age of information, every thing you do is on camera, these people were known before they got started and we are seeing the results. As it happens we had similar designs on Iran too, but as it happens Iran is mostly Shia and it was harder to find turn coats that will turn on their own for the benefits of the foreigners, that is all, in Syria, however, with a majority Sunni being ruled by Shia it was not so hard to find people dumb enough to start an uprising at the behest of "sympathetic"outsiders.
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-us-iran-and-democracy.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/06/as-iran-burns.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/07/syrian-rebels-captured-with-israeli.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2012/07/syrian-rebels-exposed-george-galloway.html
As we send Syrian civilians to their slaughter ( oh yes! do not forget the crocodile tears), we only talk about the atrocities being committed by the regime, we do not talk about our friendly Mujahedin doing the same to the Shia populations, even after the UN finally said a few words about it. Why is democracy good for Syria now all of a sudden, but we still back up the Bahrain regime in their oppression of the Shia?
US is again in the twilight zone of her politics, Syrians may be killing each other but we forget that ones we are supporting in Syria are also the same ones trying to over throw the Shia government in Iraq, thus the increase in the bombings and killing in Iraq, more than likely using the arms we are sending the the Al-Qaeda in Syria. And the hit man is uncovered and the bullet hits the bone.
Watch out!
Here is lesson here for the Arabs, the Muslims (Shia, Sunni or what ever the heck), always so dependent on the mercy of the foreigners to save their ass and protect their fiefdoms, in the end "we all fall down". There are big bad wolves out there in the real world lil girls, just because someone is licking your ass for your oil or capital investments, providing you with booze or covering up for your liking little girls and boys in Hong Kong or in London, your day is near. Like I said before, (http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-world-order-2003.html),
you really think you are luckier than Noriega, Raza, or Markos? Keep pushing your luck, Bashir will fall, he WILL, as did Hosni and Qadaffi and others, how long can you tread water? Listen to the girl below, lil girls have to be ready, for "he is followed you home and he will eat your head too.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Thursday, September 27, 2012
Lynyrd Skynyrd ★ That Smell @ Live 720p HD
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Monday, September 24, 2012
Santorum: "We Will Never Have The Elite, Smart People On Our Side"
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Sunday, September 23, 2012
THE OTHERS "THE REAL 47 PERCENT" part two
09/22/2012
THE OTHERS "THE REAL 47 PERCENT" part two
It dragged on, I did not mean to get so long winded but as I sat here, my thoughts got jumbled as they usually do. The other 47 percent I meant to write about disappeared in the fog of my brain.
It is easy to forget the invisible 47 percent, these are the ones that do not count, they don't make a noise, don't ask for much, really don't ask for anything, deaf dumb and blind getting up in the morning, showing up for work every day yet going broke, going in the hawk, yet blaming themselves for all that is failing around them. Their families falling apart, their kids doing without, no pay raises, no workers right, no job security, yet they blame themselves, shopping at the WalMart because they can not afford anything decent or worthwhile, buying stuff made by slaves over there, because with their low low wages they can only shop at places with their low low prices.
These are the American workers, they were promised a good life, if they worked hard, they had job security and benefits, they had retirements and health benefits, and now here they are, in the global slave market, toiling endlessly for meager pay checks, still it is cheaper to find slaves overseas, slaves, but you don't have to own them,slaves but you don't have to take care care of them, slaves but if they die or are injured, they are on their own and soon we will all be, on our own, cutting each others throats for it is survival of the fittest, and survival of those that will produce ever more for their owners at the least cost. This is not being negative, this is seeing reality as it comes down the pike, we have all been sold in to slavery.
We have a good game going though, but the masters always win, it is fun, it is almost like plying golf with the boss, the boss always wins, only here the boss owns the golf clubs, the balls and even the golf course, you just can not win, you will not win.
By golly the game is rigged, it is like the movie, The Hunger Games, we must fight to survive, we must kill each other to live, we must kill everyone else at all cost, so talk about , we can only talk, about human rights and fair wages, and living wage and such other niceties, we know it is a game, we know it is all fake, we don't give a shit, really.
We have choices, yes, we must destroy the land to eat, we must destroy drinking water to have cheap energy, we must let Africans and South Americans kill each other to provide us with cheap raw materials and make them work for crumbs so we can eat good.
Yet we do not eat good or live comfortably because we are winning, or because we are better, we are doing well because it is not our turn yet, but it is coming, soon, it has started.
We are living well (we have been living well actually) because our governments and the central banks have been playing a game, they create bogus money from thin air to buy us goods and services, at home and overseas, while the banks and the super rich "loan" our government that funny money that our governments create. In return, our future is hawked by our government to the same super rich as our future services and earning are granted to the same masters.
The real 47 percent do not know any better, do not care, and do not understand, enjoying the "good life", a six pack, a girl friend, a big screen TV and life is good, the beef is always fed good before slaughter. Or on the other hand they are just promised heaven, and glory, beat your chest we are the greatest, the biggest, the strongest, see we can beat up on any two bit third world dictator and damn it we can blow their whole country to smithereens and now shut up and go to sleep don't ask stupid questions, the lord is coming and we will all be saved, go to church on Sunday and think of beautiful things, Amen.
The real 47 percent are the sheep, no questions to be asked, just play follow the leader, talk crap against the other side till you start feeling good about your side, that is it, feel better? Romney is winning/ Obama is ahead, your life will still be crap regardless.
Yet we have faith, only if we could just do away with the other side, defeat them, vanquish them, make them disappear, just smite them, it is not a freaking election, it is war, it is battle ground states, it is the winning strategy, move this chess piece here and that chess piece there, and our side wins, it is guaranteed, you lose either way, I guarantee it. Elections are not about strategies, they are about the nations, about the people, the future, about making things work for all not taking things from everybody but the rich. No one gets anything for nothing, someone has to pay for it, let us make the one with the least pay for it.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
THE OTHERS "THE REAL 47 PERCENT" part two
It dragged on, I did not mean to get so long winded but as I sat here, my thoughts got jumbled as they usually do. The other 47 percent I meant to write about disappeared in the fog of my brain.
It is easy to forget the invisible 47 percent, these are the ones that do not count, they don't make a noise, don't ask for much, really don't ask for anything, deaf dumb and blind getting up in the morning, showing up for work every day yet going broke, going in the hawk, yet blaming themselves for all that is failing around them. Their families falling apart, their kids doing without, no pay raises, no workers right, no job security, yet they blame themselves, shopping at the WalMart because they can not afford anything decent or worthwhile, buying stuff made by slaves over there, because with their low low wages they can only shop at places with their low low prices.
These are the American workers, they were promised a good life, if they worked hard, they had job security and benefits, they had retirements and health benefits, and now here they are, in the global slave market, toiling endlessly for meager pay checks, still it is cheaper to find slaves overseas, slaves, but you don't have to own them,slaves but you don't have to take care care of them, slaves but if they die or are injured, they are on their own and soon we will all be, on our own, cutting each others throats for it is survival of the fittest, and survival of those that will produce ever more for their owners at the least cost. This is not being negative, this is seeing reality as it comes down the pike, we have all been sold in to slavery.
We have a good game going though, but the masters always win, it is fun, it is almost like plying golf with the boss, the boss always wins, only here the boss owns the golf clubs, the balls and even the golf course, you just can not win, you will not win.
By golly the game is rigged, it is like the movie, The Hunger Games, we must fight to survive, we must kill each other to live, we must kill everyone else at all cost, so talk about , we can only talk, about human rights and fair wages, and living wage and such other niceties, we know it is a game, we know it is all fake, we don't give a shit, really.
We have choices, yes, we must destroy the land to eat, we must destroy drinking water to have cheap energy, we must let Africans and South Americans kill each other to provide us with cheap raw materials and make them work for crumbs so we can eat good.
Yet we do not eat good or live comfortably because we are winning, or because we are better, we are doing well because it is not our turn yet, but it is coming, soon, it has started.
We are living well (we have been living well actually) because our governments and the central banks have been playing a game, they create bogus money from thin air to buy us goods and services, at home and overseas, while the banks and the super rich "loan" our government that funny money that our governments create. In return, our future is hawked by our government to the same super rich as our future services and earning are granted to the same masters.
The real 47 percent do not know any better, do not care, and do not understand, enjoying the "good life", a six pack, a girl friend, a big screen TV and life is good, the beef is always fed good before slaughter. Or on the other hand they are just promised heaven, and glory, beat your chest we are the greatest, the biggest, the strongest, see we can beat up on any two bit third world dictator and damn it we can blow their whole country to smithereens and now shut up and go to sleep don't ask stupid questions, the lord is coming and we will all be saved, go to church on Sunday and think of beautiful things, Amen.
The real 47 percent are the sheep, no questions to be asked, just play follow the leader, talk crap against the other side till you start feeling good about your side, that is it, feel better? Romney is winning/ Obama is ahead, your life will still be crap regardless.
Yet we have faith, only if we could just do away with the other side, defeat them, vanquish them, make them disappear, just smite them, it is not a freaking election, it is war, it is battle ground states, it is the winning strategy, move this chess piece here and that chess piece there, and our side wins, it is guaranteed, you lose either way, I guarantee it. Elections are not about strategies, they are about the nations, about the people, the future, about making things work for all not taking things from everybody but the rich. No one gets anything for nothing, someone has to pay for it, let us make the one with the least pay for it.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Wednesday, September 19, 2012
THE OTHERS "THE REAL 47 PERCENT"
09/19/2012
THE OTHERS "THE REAL 47 PERCENT"
It was good to know that according to Romney/Ryan, 47 percent of Americans are constant whiners, sucking on the government teat. But there is another 47 percent, as usual a mix of working non working tax paying non-tax paying, even Republican and Democrat voters, these are the real 47 percent that no one wants to talk about, Not Romney/Ryan, not even Obama, let the sleeping dogs, lie.
Many years ago I had said, the US is forty percent Republican, forty percent Democrat and twenty percent that don't even know they exist, and could care less.
Please keep an open mind, at least to the point of fact that in a family involved in incest no one thinks there is something wrong or they are doing anything wrong, even as the fault is obvious to some looking in from the out side.
That was just get you to pay attention, that's all.
So who are the forty seven percent that no one talks about, and that they themselves are not aware and don't care, like so many mules dragged along by the circumstances, led by the noose by their keepers, democrats, republican and the pundits. Now look around you, they are everywhere, deaf, dumb and blind, dragged along by charlatans for a few pennies, they will turn any directions their master are willing to lead them to.
Whoever thoughts, the masters of the universe, the Americans, the free born, the beacons of freedom and democracy could be so dumb, so stupid, but there they are talking about things they don't know, policies they do not understand, willing to jump in front of any train on the clue.
Mitt lied, that is not news, both sides lie, this is politics right where the biggest lairs win, it is just which liar is more likable to you, which liar is playing the tune you are programmed to respond to. You do not have to understand policies, just rest assured they are all good for you, mommy will kiss your booboo and all will be better.
Not that Obama is not a liar, he talks a good game, heck he beat McCain did he not? Even as Palin had bigger tits, and looked better in a swim suit. This time though Obama is not lying as much or telling as big lies as the dopes of the right are passing around for a policy, that is where the differences are. The other forty seven percent are still clueless.
If you think I am a democrat, you are wrong, if you think I favor Obama over Romney/Ryan you have not been reading my writings for the past five years. If you think that the US and the world economies will be fixed, you have not heard what I have been saying for the past fifteen years, including Clinton, boom and the Bush boom years, what has been keeping us afloat for all this time is the fake money being printed and the debt all over the world. WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING OUR FUTURE AND SELLING OUR KIDS INTO SLAVERY.
It is really not the matter of the truths, or the facts, it a matter of beliefs, it is a matter of faith, like say your favorite football team, no matter how lousy a year they are having, you think they will win, they can win, you want them to win, you always bet on them, only in politics though your livelihood could depend on the outcome, but here again you are willing to lose it all on your bet.
So may be you believe that even with foreign competition Mitt could create twelve million jobs, that lower taxes create jobs, and you will have higher wages, you are fool then.
A bigger fool than ones who believe that energy, or shortage there off is the major cause of our economic decline. If energy is our problem then why are we not proposing higher taxes on energy use? Why are we not planning and supporting public transportation, more efficient transportation and cars? Because they only tell you what you want to hear. As we propose cars with 54mpg, do they tell you these cars will not be sold two three and four times down the road, these will not be cheap to fix, and their parts not cheap or easy to replace.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
THE OTHERS "THE REAL 47 PERCENT"
It was good to know that according to Romney/Ryan, 47 percent of Americans are constant whiners, sucking on the government teat. But there is another 47 percent, as usual a mix of working non working tax paying non-tax paying, even Republican and Democrat voters, these are the real 47 percent that no one wants to talk about, Not Romney/Ryan, not even Obama, let the sleeping dogs, lie.
Many years ago I had said, the US is forty percent Republican, forty percent Democrat and twenty percent that don't even know they exist, and could care less.
Please keep an open mind, at least to the point of fact that in a family involved in incest no one thinks there is something wrong or they are doing anything wrong, even as the fault is obvious to some looking in from the out side.
That was just get you to pay attention, that's all.
So who are the forty seven percent that no one talks about, and that they themselves are not aware and don't care, like so many mules dragged along by the circumstances, led by the noose by their keepers, democrats, republican and the pundits. Now look around you, they are everywhere, deaf, dumb and blind, dragged along by charlatans for a few pennies, they will turn any directions their master are willing to lead them to.
Whoever thoughts, the masters of the universe, the Americans, the free born, the beacons of freedom and democracy could be so dumb, so stupid, but there they are talking about things they don't know, policies they do not understand, willing to jump in front of any train on the clue.
Mitt lied, that is not news, both sides lie, this is politics right where the biggest lairs win, it is just which liar is more likable to you, which liar is playing the tune you are programmed to respond to. You do not have to understand policies, just rest assured they are all good for you, mommy will kiss your booboo and all will be better.
Not that Obama is not a liar, he talks a good game, heck he beat McCain did he not? Even as Palin had bigger tits, and looked better in a swim suit. This time though Obama is not lying as much or telling as big lies as the dopes of the right are passing around for a policy, that is where the differences are. The other forty seven percent are still clueless.
If you think I am a democrat, you are wrong, if you think I favor Obama over Romney/Ryan you have not been reading my writings for the past five years. If you think that the US and the world economies will be fixed, you have not heard what I have been saying for the past fifteen years, including Clinton, boom and the Bush boom years, what has been keeping us afloat for all this time is the fake money being printed and the debt all over the world. WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING OUR FUTURE AND SELLING OUR KIDS INTO SLAVERY.
It is really not the matter of the truths, or the facts, it a matter of beliefs, it is a matter of faith, like say your favorite football team, no matter how lousy a year they are having, you think they will win, they can win, you want them to win, you always bet on them, only in politics though your livelihood could depend on the outcome, but here again you are willing to lose it all on your bet.
So may be you believe that even with foreign competition Mitt could create twelve million jobs, that lower taxes create jobs, and you will have higher wages, you are fool then.
A bigger fool than ones who believe that energy, or shortage there off is the major cause of our economic decline. If energy is our problem then why are we not proposing higher taxes on energy use? Why are we not planning and supporting public transportation, more efficient transportation and cars? Because they only tell you what you want to hear. As we propose cars with 54mpg, do they tell you these cars will not be sold two three and four times down the road, these will not be cheap to fix, and their parts not cheap or easy to replace.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
Sunday, September 16, 2012
Sam Harris on "Free Will"
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/03/free-will.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/09/beyond-stupid-god-and-immortal-man.html
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
AT THE END OF REASON
09/16/2012
AT THE END OF REASON
Or may be not? In psychology there is a construct, called projection, basically you assign your own negative (sometimes positive ones too) to other people, usually the ones different than yourself. It is a self preservation mechanism really, we do not want to think ourselves as bad, so whatever we do wrong we see others as doing such, helps us hold ourselves blameless.
It is used today in politics, while we all, all sides want something for nothing, we blame each other for asking the same. Is asking for tax cuts, in a down economy is not asking for more than their fair share? What do they need the money for? And the poor the jobless and the hungry want three square meals, a cell phone, air conditioned housing and cable too, at someone else' dime. Not to say it all sounds reasonable to a lot of people, but is it reality?
They say, " the pen is mightier than sword", I do not wish to hurt your feelings. I can comeback with a snarky and meaning less remark as fast as my fifteen year old son, I try to remain civil. I use my pen and my words as a mirror to reflect your soul so you can not hide behind big words and jibberish you picked up some wheres. Look at what we say and what we actually do.
The US public, the people of the West are ready to believe that all their economic prosperity has been real, to a point it has, for hundreds of years we owned the world, we took their resources for our use, we felt we had the right. Now as the people of the world have been catching up, we had to resort to gimmickry. We have been creating phony monies to buy the natural resources and labor from overseas, all the money in the world today is phony money, it is backed by thin air, not gold or silver. And yet we no longer have enough of it to go around, we are getting poorer. The world population is out of control and the world populations know too much.
I have no idea why the religion must be inserted in anything and everything we talk about, once again I KNOW damn it, my name confuses you, it makes you blind to my reality, you can not see me in human term, you do not see me as a possible reasonable human being, your loss.
It is not your fault, you are being taught to see everyone thru the jaundiced eye of religion, it helps if you do, then you ignore the crap that is foisted upon you by your own kind. It has become a habit of the American media and the others in the West to label every act of Muslims side that is not liked by the controllers that day to to call it terrorism, if it is Qaddafi or Bashir, they are terrorizing their people, if it is Palestinians or Kashmiris fighting to save their lands they are also terrorist, FARC of Columbia on the other hand are now rebels, the murderers in Mexico are drug gangs (even if they are terrorizing the populations and the news papers), not terrorists, the Syrian anti regime fighters are the good guys today even if they ARE Al Qaeda that we are trying to kill in Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia, but the Basque in Spain are now separatist, you see the point I am making? The message is repeated day and night from Rush and O'Riley and CNN and CBS. We have just stopped calling them Islamic terrorist but that is implied, if the are terrorist they are Muslims.
You know, you should know I have problems with religions, I have bigger problems with the religious of every stripe, I am not impressed by what you believe in, I am impressed only by what you ARE!
Religion it self is anti reason, (no, your one too), first there is no karma, if it were true the poor would be rich and the rich would be poor, off and on, the torturers would be getting caught in combines in a field or run over by steam rollers on the pavements, and of course the bankers would find their homes looted and their bank accounts stolen, the people who starve the hungry around the world for profits would find them selves lost in the mountains without food or shelter, it does not happen.
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/09/beyond-stupid-god-and-immortal-man.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/03/free-will.html
If there is a god's plan, and a god's will then the man can not have free will, people do not choose to be poor, illiterate, blind, be stricken with cancer, if god has a plan it is a damn lousy one.
The problem is that the believers all over the place react to defend the honor and the message of their respective gods in a similar fashion. We can say this is different or that is different but the results always predictable and same. If you think that the Muslims like to defend the honor of the beliefs then you are ignoring the rest. Are the Jews in Israel today for the sole reason that their god gave them that piece of land? Surely they have the deed to property, it is called the Torah. And as the Christians also hold a similar belief, they have gone along with the Jews. I have said that when it is matter of faith, the believer take it upon themselves to do what god could do himself he wanted to, and they want to be holier than their respective prophets, so long as it does not crimp their style, you can read the articles on the links above. Forget that if god wanted to make all the same he could have done so, no one had to convince anyone else, but that is not god's plan unless his followers take over.
We say that Jesus was a tolerant and compassionate man /god. But than watch his followers. Just mention abortion or gay rights, or even say stop being a consumer, or greedy or a glutton. Similarly, Muslims forget that their own prophet ignored even prayed for the woman that used to throw trash on him as he went to say his prayers. The treatment of the Arabs at the hands of the Jews is no different than what the Nazis did to the Jews, and yet, they only do that because their god gave them the property.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
WAITING ROOM
keeping formality
seeking normality
so much yet unknown
still you want to explore
no one else around
but neither seems so sure
eyes talking,
though not a word is said
you want but to know only,
"what is in your head"
in your heart,
all those feelings explode
forbidden thoughts,
in the once sleepy abode
who you are,
you only try to hide
what you feel ,
you have no other feelings beside
a game in thoughts,
it's a mental trip
you glance aside,
then let your eyes strip
a game of chance,
that you don't want to win
close your eyes,
and you let your mind spin
another yarn,
it's one more story to tell
you don't want to reveal
crawl back into your shell
want to reach out,
and you want to touch
you want to hold,
you want to do as much
life is strange ,
and you just want to steal
turn your head
and let the conscience heal
(M.N.R.)
AT THE END OF REASON
Or may be not? In psychology there is a construct, called projection, basically you assign your own negative (sometimes positive ones too) to other people, usually the ones different than yourself. It is a self preservation mechanism really, we do not want to think ourselves as bad, so whatever we do wrong we see others as doing such, helps us hold ourselves blameless.
It is used today in politics, while we all, all sides want something for nothing, we blame each other for asking the same. Is asking for tax cuts, in a down economy is not asking for more than their fair share? What do they need the money for? And the poor the jobless and the hungry want three square meals, a cell phone, air conditioned housing and cable too, at someone else' dime. Not to say it all sounds reasonable to a lot of people, but is it reality?
They say, " the pen is mightier than sword", I do not wish to hurt your feelings. I can comeback with a snarky and meaning less remark as fast as my fifteen year old son, I try to remain civil. I use my pen and my words as a mirror to reflect your soul so you can not hide behind big words and jibberish you picked up some wheres. Look at what we say and what we actually do.
The US public, the people of the West are ready to believe that all their economic prosperity has been real, to a point it has, for hundreds of years we owned the world, we took their resources for our use, we felt we had the right. Now as the people of the world have been catching up, we had to resort to gimmickry. We have been creating phony monies to buy the natural resources and labor from overseas, all the money in the world today is phony money, it is backed by thin air, not gold or silver. And yet we no longer have enough of it to go around, we are getting poorer. The world population is out of control and the world populations know too much.
I have no idea why the religion must be inserted in anything and everything we talk about, once again I KNOW damn it, my name confuses you, it makes you blind to my reality, you can not see me in human term, you do not see me as a possible reasonable human being, your loss.
It is not your fault, you are being taught to see everyone thru the jaundiced eye of religion, it helps if you do, then you ignore the crap that is foisted upon you by your own kind. It has become a habit of the American media and the others in the West to label every act of Muslims side that is not liked by the controllers that day to to call it terrorism, if it is Qaddafi or Bashir, they are terrorizing their people, if it is Palestinians or Kashmiris fighting to save their lands they are also terrorist, FARC of Columbia on the other hand are now rebels, the murderers in Mexico are drug gangs (even if they are terrorizing the populations and the news papers), not terrorists, the Syrian anti regime fighters are the good guys today even if they ARE Al Qaeda that we are trying to kill in Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia, but the Basque in Spain are now separatist, you see the point I am making? The message is repeated day and night from Rush and O'Riley and CNN and CBS. We have just stopped calling them Islamic terrorist but that is implied, if the are terrorist they are Muslims.
You know, you should know I have problems with religions, I have bigger problems with the religious of every stripe, I am not impressed by what you believe in, I am impressed only by what you ARE!
Religion it self is anti reason, (no, your one too), first there is no karma, if it were true the poor would be rich and the rich would be poor, off and on, the torturers would be getting caught in combines in a field or run over by steam rollers on the pavements, and of course the bankers would find their homes looted and their bank accounts stolen, the people who starve the hungry around the world for profits would find them selves lost in the mountains without food or shelter, it does not happen.
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2006/09/beyond-stupid-god-and-immortal-man.html
http://tombstone001.blogspot.com/2009/03/free-will.html
If there is a god's plan, and a god's will then the man can not have free will, people do not choose to be poor, illiterate, blind, be stricken with cancer, if god has a plan it is a damn lousy one.
The problem is that the believers all over the place react to defend the honor and the message of their respective gods in a similar fashion. We can say this is different or that is different but the results always predictable and same. If you think that the Muslims like to defend the honor of the beliefs then you are ignoring the rest. Are the Jews in Israel today for the sole reason that their god gave them that piece of land? Surely they have the deed to property, it is called the Torah. And as the Christians also hold a similar belief, they have gone along with the Jews. I have said that when it is matter of faith, the believer take it upon themselves to do what god could do himself he wanted to, and they want to be holier than their respective prophets, so long as it does not crimp their style, you can read the articles on the links above. Forget that if god wanted to make all the same he could have done so, no one had to convince anyone else, but that is not god's plan unless his followers take over.
We say that Jesus was a tolerant and compassionate man /god. But than watch his followers. Just mention abortion or gay rights, or even say stop being a consumer, or greedy or a glutton. Similarly, Muslims forget that their own prophet ignored even prayed for the woman that used to throw trash on him as he went to say his prayers. The treatment of the Arabs at the hands of the Jews is no different than what the Nazis did to the Jews, and yet, they only do that because their god gave them the property.
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
WAITING ROOM
keeping formality
seeking normality
so much yet unknown
still you want to explore
no one else around
but neither seems so sure
eyes talking,
though not a word is said
you want but to know only,
"what is in your head"
in your heart,
all those feelings explode
forbidden thoughts,
in the once sleepy abode
who you are,
you only try to hide
what you feel ,
you have no other feelings beside
a game in thoughts,
it's a mental trip
you glance aside,
then let your eyes strip
a game of chance,
that you don't want to win
close your eyes,
and you let your mind spin
another yarn,
it's one more story to tell
you don't want to reveal
crawl back into your shell
want to reach out,
and you want to touch
you want to hold,
you want to do as much
life is strange ,
and you just want to steal
turn your head
and let the conscience heal
(M.N.R.)
MIRAGE
MIRAGE
lost is my love
chasing a dream across the desert
mirages full of open doors
love is a maze
the
fools step in
open
arms
hearts
to be stolen
thieves of hearts
no
chance
no mercy
show me
your pain
show me
your wounds
i do not
ask for trinkets
i die
each day
to save
your soul
do i
know love
or do
you know it
what you
hide from yourself
i
proudly show it
my cheap
wares
my
ugliness,
my
foolish heart
and
tenderness
my
truth, my lies
to steal
your heart
to
comfort you
when we
are apart
my words
will follow
for i do
care
to save
you from
this
nightmare
04/21/2001
(M.N.R.)
LIFE IS A GAME OF CONNECT THE DOTS, IF YOU DON'T CONNECT ALL THE DOTS OR DON'T CONNECT THEM IN THE RIGHT ORDER YOU NEVER GET THE PICTURE
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